I read on a previous post that the "Black Box" is not in the starting circuit.

Waiting for the manual to come.

I guess everyone is having FUN at the Plow Day

 

Hi Bryan,

I hope this helps!

 

Thank you so much Jim.
I have the manual for the 1977 400 but still waiting on the manual on the 1983 420.
Boy they are Totally different beasts.
Appreciate the pic n reply.

Bryan in da swampz

 

Jim,
May I impose on you to send me that schematic?
My eyes are old. I already tried to magnify this image - but I think when you post a jpeg image this site shrinks its resolution.

 

Bryan,
Sure I can. I'll e-mail it to the address in your profile. I know, the pictures look good and then they have to be shrunk down to less than 100k, and that beats the crap out of the resolution. Can't complain though. If somebody wants better resolution, you send the image via e-mail.
Jim

 

Jim,
Got it. Thanks Mucho. wow I can see it now and no it was not my glasses.
Bryan

 

Glad to help, Bryan!

Jim

 

The Schematic shows only 4 connections on the ignition switch - but my ign switch has 6 terminals.

Schematic shows ign switch terminals; A , B , S-1 , S-2 . MY switch has six terminals - S, A, B, R, M, 3 ?? The #3 terminal is above and close to edge away from the normal 5 terminal pattern of (picture this) "four car tires with a dash above. (I am trying to say what the back of the ign switch, terminals look like).
So I should hook - Pink & Red to A, then Lt Green & 12v Red to B, then S-1 solenoid purple to S term - then what?

 

Bryan,

Electrical is never easy, especially if somebody gets in there and starts to jury-rig everything to save a buck!

I looked at my 318 and there is a plug that connects everything to the ignition switch. I replaced the switch several years ago and it seemed to me that there were two plugs. I wish I could give you more info. On this, but I would have to tear everything apart to get at it.

I’m looking at the schematic and what I’m seeing is pink & 2 amp fuse to A. Purple & purple w/black to S2. Lt. Green & Red from 25A fuse to B and purple to S1. Now, I seem to remember that there were some unused terminals. Are you sure you have the original switch or one that was fudged in there? I may still have my old switch but only God knows where it is. I’m starting to think that the previous owner found a switch and cut the plugs off so he could wire it in with just spade connectors or whatever. Maybe a new wiring harness would be the way to go. Good luck!

Need anymore help just ask.



Jim

(Message edited by jdfan on October 26, 2006)

 

I just had my 318 switch out and there were two unused terminal on it. I cn't read the diagram well enough to say anything else.

 

Jim - Thanx, that is the same wires I came up with.

John C. - Did your ign switch have 5 or 6 terminals. Yes my switch had 2 term not used, but it is good to hear another member say they just looked at their switch. Is yours a Onan P48G or P220? Battery ignition or Magneto?

 

6 terminals total. 5 in the middle and one on the perimeter. My is a P48G with a battery ignition.

 

John,
Thanx. That confirms I have the same switch. 6 terminals total and mine only used 3 term, with a 4th terminal used on that perimeter terminal - (I call #6) it did have a green wire just pushed thru the hole on the spade of the terminal.

So now I am going to try Terminals S, B, A. as there is no S-1 or S-2 indicated on my switch.

Bryan

 

Bryan,

Yous Gots Mails!
Jim

 

Jim,
Thanks for the ign pic. I just printed 3 copies, so maybe one will not get greasy.
I've ordered new points, cond & ign switch and trying to locate a coil.
Has anyone had any luck with napa parts?

Bryan